He Said, He Said

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July 28, 2014 by JImbo


Why is there fighting over there? What are the sides fighting for? Can they ever have peace?

For the moment, let’s set aside the past. We can argue endlessly over who did what to whom for THOUSANDS of years. Literally.

Are the Egyptians going to reimburse the Jews for slavery in Moses’ time?

Do they get to blame the Romans for those little massacres back around Jesus’ time?

Are we about to give the United States back to the Indians… or Mexicans? Or are the Mexicans going to give their land back to the French? Or Spanish?

Are well going back to Africa where we came from millions of years ago?

It’s academic at this point. What we need now is a path FORWARD.

Let’s start at the foundation of what each side believes.

What does Hamas want?

Why don’t we ask them?

Article 7 of the Hamas Charter

“Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion. It links up with the setting out of the Martyr Izz a-din al-Qassam and his brothers in the Muslim Brotherhood who fought the Holy War in 1936; it further relates to another link of the Palestinian Jihad and the Jihad and efforts of the Muslim Brothers during the 1948 War, and to the Jihad operations of the Muslim Brothers in 1968 and thereafter. But even if the links have become distant from each other, and even if the obstacles erected by those who revolve in the Zionist orbit, aiming at obstructing the road before the Jihad fighters, have rendered the pursuance of Jihad impossible; nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).”

Or Article 9 perhaps?

“As to the objectives: discarding the evil, crushing it and defeating it, so that truth may prevail, homelands revert [to their owners], calls for prayer be heard from their mosques, announcing the reinstitution of the Muslim state (Caliphate).”

Can there be peace? I doubt it. Not with Hamas.

Hamas refuses to let Israel or even JEWS exist where they control. If Israel wanted to “exterminate” the Palestinians it wouldn’t have been hard. They have about 4,000 tanks. They could roll through in about 3 days and be done. They haven’t because they believe it’s wrong.

Contrast the Hamas Constitution with the Basic Law of Israel

Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty

Purpose 1. The purpose of this Basic Law is to protect human dignity and liberty, in order to establish in a Basic Law the values of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.
Preservation of life, body and dignity 2. There shall be no violation of the life, body or dignity of any person as such.
Protection of property 3. There shall be no violation of the property of a person.
Protection of life, body and dignity 4. All persons are entitled to protection of their life, body and dignity.
Personal liberty 5. There shall be no deprivation or restriction of the liberty of a person by imprisonment, arrest, extradition or otherwise.
Leaving and entering Israel 6. (a) All persons are free to leave Israel.

(b) Every Israel national has the right of entry into Israel from abroad.

Privacy 7. (a) All persons have the right to privacy and to intimacy.

(b) There shall be no entry into the private premises of a person who has not consented thereto.

(c) No search shall be conducted on the private premises of a person, nor in the body or personal effects.

(d) There shall be no violation of the confidentiality of conversation, or of the writings or records of a person.

Violation of rights 8. There shall be no violation of rights under this Basic Law except by a law befitting the values of the State of Israel, enacted for a proper purpose, and to an extent no greater than is required.
Reservation regarding security forces 9. There shall be no restriction of rights under this Basic Law held by persons serving in the Israel Defence Forces, the Israel Police, the Prisons Service and other security organizations of the State, nor shall such rights be subject to conditions, except by virtue of a law, or by regulation enacted by virtue of a law, and to an extent no greater than is required by the nature and character of the service.
Validity of laws 10. This Basic Law shall not affect the validity of any law (din) in force prior to the commencement of the Basic Law.
Application 11. All governmental authorities are bound to respect the rights under this Basic Law.
Stability 12. This Basic Law cannot be varied, suspended or made subject to conditions by emergency regulations; notwithstanding, when a state of emergency exists, by virtue of a declaration under section 9 of the Law and Administration Ordinance, 5708-1948, emergency regulations may be enacted by virtue of said section to deny or restrict rights under this Basic Law, provided the denial or restriction shall be for a proper purpose and for a period and extent no greater than is required.


Notice that it doesn’t say “Jews” have rights or “Arabs” have rights. It says “person.” There is no difference in Israeli Basic Law between an Arab and a Jew. Both can be citizens.

You can say there are exceptions taken from every rule. Of course there are abuses of laws in every country. However, which side’s ideal is closer to what you believe?

Israelis can have peace with Palestinians. I’m sure the people are just tired of the killing on both sides.

It just can’t go through Hamas… who are in charge of Gaza.



The Jerusalem Fund (Pro-Palestinian, Pro-Hamas charity)


The Israeli Knesset (Parliament)



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